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| The stock injectors on a 3800 really are not that great for higher horsepower builds. There is a little bit of headroom with the L67 injectors, but once you start using a turbo or a small supercharger pulley you will start to exceed the capabilities of the stock injectors. | The stock injectors on a 3800 really are not that great for higher horsepower builds. There is a little bit of headroom with the L67 injectors, but once you start using a turbo or a small supercharger pulley you will start to exceed the capabilities of the stock injectors. | ||
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| + | At this point you will need to look at some of the aftermarket fuel injectors. There is plenty of aftermarket for fuel injectors so it's just a matter of finding the largest injector you think you'll need and tuning your computer to take use them properly. At this point you will want to look at your fuel pump as well. | ||
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| + | ==== Stock injectors ==== | ||
| The 3800 came equipped with different injectors depending on whether it's a series 2 or 3, and if it is supercharged or naturally aspirated. | The 3800 came equipped with different injectors depending on whether it's a series 2 or 3, and if it is supercharged or naturally aspirated. | ||
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| + | All Series 2 and 3 injectors are 60mm injectors. | ||
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| The series 3 3800 is a bit different than prior versions because it utlizes a returnless fuel system and the injectors use the EV6 connector. Series 2 and earlier motors will use a retun-style fuel system and EV1 fuel injectors. | The series 3 3800 is a bit different than prior versions because it utlizes a returnless fuel system and the injectors use the EV6 connector. Series 2 and earlier motors will use a retun-style fuel system and EV1 fuel injectors. | ||
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| You can use an adapter to convert between the two connector types if necessary. | You can use an adapter to convert between the two connector types if necessary. | ||
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| - | L32 motors can see a tiny improvement in injector headroom by switching to L67 injectors. | ||
| ===== Fuel Rails ===== | ===== Fuel Rails ===== | ||
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| This is not that practical with the stock PCM since there is no simple way to enable/ | This is not that practical with the stock PCM since there is no simple way to enable/ | ||
| - | There are a few companies that make aftermarket fuel rails as well for the 3800. Those can be used to easily adapt AN lines to the fuel rail, or an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator, or to simplify the fuel rails when using a tall intercooler. | + | There are a few companies that make aftermarket fuel rails as well for the 3800. Those can be used to easily adapt AN lines to the fuel rail, or an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator, or to simplify the fuel rails when using a tall intercooler.\\ |
| + | Currently ZZP and Aeromotive are the only companies offering billet fuel rails: | ||
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| ===== Fuel pump ===== | ===== Fuel pump ===== | ||
| The factory fuel pump is sufficient for light modding, however heavier mods will need a fuel pump upgrade. Your results will vary, but just pick out whatever makes sense for your power level and the type of fuel that you're using. | The factory fuel pump is sufficient for light modding, however heavier mods will need a fuel pump upgrade. Your results will vary, but just pick out whatever makes sense for your power level and the type of fuel that you're using. | ||
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| + | Every fuel pump's performance will vary based on base fuel pressure and voltage supplied so **take these numbers with a grain of salt**. In general this is a good outline of a safe fuel pump size for the amount of power you're trying to make: | ||
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| ===== Ethanol/E85 ===== | ===== Ethanol/E85 ===== | ||
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