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 ====== Strength ====== ====== Strength ======
  
-The T-56 is rated to handle at least 450 ft-lbs of torque in the 98-02 f-body's. There are countless examples of people who have pushed this transmission well beyond this range.+The factory T-56 is rated to handle at least 450 ft-lbs of torque in the 98-02 f-body's. There are countless examples of people who have pushed this transmission well beyond this range you can find online.
  
-Usually most issue come with higher mileage and abuse. There are many who have pushed over 1000 horsepower through a T56.+There is also the option of using a T56 Magnum or TR6060 as well and these are rated much higher. The magnum is rated for 700 ft-lbs of torque and the TR6060 is rated for 600 ft-lbs. 
 + 
 +Of course there are lots of examples of people using these transmissions with over 1,000 ft-lbs of torque without issue.\\ 
 +In general these transmissions are considered bulletproof unless it is being abused or if it has a lot of miles on it.
  
 ====== How to make it work ====== ====== How to make it work ======
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 Again, you will need to do your homework though here. This has not been documented very well yet. Again, you will need to do your homework though here. This has not been documented very well yet.
  
-==== Bellhousing  Adapter Option ====+==== Bellhousing Adapter Option ====
  
 The other option is to use the LS style bellhousing and an adapter plate between the bellhousing and the engine.\\ The other option is to use the LS style bellhousing and an adapter plate between the bellhousing and the engine.\\
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 You will also use the 3800/T5 or LS/T56 hydraulic slave cylinder (both are the same)\\ You will also use the 3800/T5 or LS/T56 hydraulic slave cylinder (both are the same)\\
-The slave cylinder will need a 1/2" spacer between it and the transmission to make up for the space used by the adapter plate.+The slave cylinder will need about a  1" spacer between it and the transmission to make up for the space used by the adapter plate.
  
 Some sites recommend using an adjustable clutch master cylinder as well. Some sites recommend using an adjustable clutch master cylinder as well.
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 - Reverse lockout harness pigtail (ACDelco 12101857)\\ - Reverse lockout harness pigtail (ACDelco 12101857)\\
 - Reverse lights pigtail (ACDelco 12085485) - Reverse lights pigtail (ACDelco 12085485)
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 +You will also need to consider the vehicle it is going into for things like your driveshaft slip yoke spline count, what master cylinder you're using, how long your clutch line needs to be, and any other wires that need to be added. The transmission mount will also need to be modified as well, or a different crossmember might be needed.
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 +If you're going down this route though you probably have a pretty good idea of what you're getting into already.
  
 ===== Expected Cost Breakdown ===== ===== Expected Cost Breakdown =====
  
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Part</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>where to find?</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>expected price</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>other info</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Part</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>where to find?</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>expected price</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>other info</font>   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>T56 Magnum Transmission</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Summit, Jegs, etc.</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$3500</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Any T56 should bolt up depending on what car you're putting it into. F-body LS1 T56 is kind of the standard though</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>T56 Magnum Transmission</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Summit, Jegs, etc.</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$3500</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Any T56 should bolt up depending on what car you're putting it into. F-body LS1 T56 is kind of the standard though</font>   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>LS Engine → T56 bellhousing</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Summit, jegs, junkyard, etc.</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$300</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>All LS bellhousings should be similar…</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>LS Engine → T56 bellhousing</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Summit, jegs, junkyard, etc.</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$300</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>All LS bellhousings should be similar…</font>   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Malwood Adapter plate</font>   |[[https://malwoodauto.com.au/product/mwaengbel005-holden-v6-3-8l-to-suit-tremec-t56-with-ls1-bellhousing/|Malwood]]  |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$450</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>price is shipped to USA after currency exchange rates</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Malwood Adapter plate</font>   |[[https://malwoodauto.com.au/product/mwaengbel005-holden-v6-3-8l-to-suit-tremec-t56-with-ls1-bellhousing/|Malwood]]  | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$450</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>price is shipped to USA after currency exchange rates</font>   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>LS1 clutch slave cylinder</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>OEM replacement or aftermarket</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$60</font>   | | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>LS1 clutch slave cylinder</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>OEM replacement or aftermarket</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$60</font>   | | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>LS1 clutch slave cylinder 1/2" spacer</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Summit</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$100</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>ram-78511</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>LS1 clutch slave cylinder 1" spacer</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Summit</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$100</font>   |   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>new pilot bearing</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>OEM replacement</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$25</font>   | | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>new pilot bearing</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>OEM replacement</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$25</font>   | | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>97-02 f-body 3800 clutch and flywheel</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Spec or OEM replacement</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$200 - $600</font>   | | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>97-02 f-body 3800 clutch and flywheel</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Spec or OEM replacement</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$200 - $600</font>   | <font inherit/Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Can also get a custom twin disc from Monster or Spec if you're willing to pay for it</font> | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>shifter</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>summit, jegs, etc.</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$40 - $300</font>   | | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>shifter</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>summit, jegs, etc.</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$40 - $300</font>   | | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>adjustable master cylinder</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>summit, jegs, etc.</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$200</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>May not be necessary, but can make sure the clutch works perfectly</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>adjustable master cylinder</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>summit, jegs, etc.</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$200</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>May not be necessary, but can make sure the clutch works perfectly</font>   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>reverse lockout pigtail</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Summit, jegs, junkyard, etc.</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$20</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>ACDelco 12101857</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>reverse lockout pigtail</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Summit, jegs, junkyard, etc.</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$20</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>ACDelco 12101857</font>   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>reverse light pigtail</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Summit, jegs, junkyard, etc.</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$10</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>ACDelco 12085485</font>   | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>reverse light pigtail</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Summit, jegs, junkyard, etc.</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$10</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>ACDelco 12085485</font>   | 
-|<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>31 spine slip yoke (only for Magnum T56)</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Summit, jegs, etc.</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>$70</font>   |<font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>If you don't already have a 31 spline slip yoke on your driveshaft. check your ujoint too because there's a few options</font>   |+| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>31 spine slip yoke (only for Magnum T56)</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Summit, jegs, etc.</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$70</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>If you don't already have a 31 spline slip yoke on your driveshaft. check your ujoint too because there's a few options</font>   |
  
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-Other sources I still need to comb through:+Other sources to look at: 
 + 
 +https://www.thechicagogarage.com/threads/3800-t56-swap-guide.177394/
  
 [[https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/vt-v6-6-speed.229878/|https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/vt-v6-6-speed.229878/]] [[https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/vt-v6-6-speed.229878/|https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/vt-v6-6-speed.229878/]]
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