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tuning_resources:aftermarket_ecu:holley_efi [2022/10/04 22:22] bentuning_resources:aftermarket_ecu:holley_efi [2022/10/04 22:41] (current) – [Installing the Harness] ben
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 Dominator/HP EFI software:\\ Dominator/HP EFI software:\\
 [[https://www.holley.com/support/fuel_injection/hp_and_dominator_efi/|https://www.holley.com/support/fuel_injection/hp_and_dominator_efi/]] [[https://www.holley.com/support/fuel_injection/hp_and_dominator_efi/|https://www.holley.com/support/fuel_injection/hp_and_dominator_efi/]]
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 ===== Typical Build Cost For a Turbo 3800 ===== ===== Typical Build Cost For a Turbo 3800 =====
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 Generally most turbo stickshift 3800's or turbo 3800's with an old school 350/400/powerglide transmission can step to a Holley for ~$1,600 in today's prices by going with a Terminator X system and modifying the LS1/LS6 harness to use the 3800's crank/cam sensor along with a few other modifications to make it work. Generally most turbo stickshift 3800's or turbo 3800's with an old school 350/400/powerglide transmission can step to a Holley for ~$1,600 in today's prices by going with a Terminator X system and modifying the LS1/LS6 harness to use the 3800's crank/cam sensor along with a few other modifications to make it work.
  
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-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Which ECU</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Terminator X</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Terminator X Max</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Terminator X Max</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Dominator</font>     | | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Which ECU</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Terminator X</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Terminator X Max</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Terminator X Max</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Dominator</font>   | | 
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>ECU/Harness part #</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>550-903</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>550-934</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>550-926</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>550-650</font>     | | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>ECU/Harness part #</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>550-903</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>550-934</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>550-926</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>550-650</font>   | | 
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Holley system</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                 1,249.95</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                    1,799.95</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                     1,799.95</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>       3,149.95</font>     | | +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Holley system</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 1,249.95</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 1,799.95</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 1,799.95</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 3,149.95</font>   | | 
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Holley 3 bar MAP</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                     111.95</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                        111.95</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                        111.95</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>          111.95</font>     |[[https://www.amazon.com/Holley-554-107-MAP-Sensor/dp/B004BA7L0W|https://www.amazon.com/Holley-554-107-MAP-Sensor/dp/B004BA7L0W]]      +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Holley 3 bar MAP</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 111.95</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 111.95</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 111.95</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 111.95</font>   |[[https://www.amazon.com/Holley-554-107-MAP-Sensor/dp/B004BA7L0W|https://www.amazon.com/Holley-554-107-MAP-Sensor/dp/B004BA7L0W]]  
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Fuel pressure sensor</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                       41.98</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                          41.98</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                           41.98</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>             41.98</font>     |[[https://www.amazon.com/Pressure-Transducer-Sender-Sensor-Stainless/dp/B00NIK9E10|https://www.amazon.com/Pressure-Transducer-Sender-Sensor-Stainless/dp/B00NIK9E10]]      +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Fuel pressure sensor</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 41.98</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 41.98</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 41.98</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 41.98</font>   |[[https://www.amazon.com/Pressure-Transducer-Sender-Sensor-Stainless/dp/B00NIK9E10|https://www.amazon.com/Pressure-Transducer-Sender-Sensor-Stainless/dp/B00NIK9E10]]  
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>flex fuel sensor (not needed)</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                       57.03</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                          57.03</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                           57.03</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>             57.03</font>     |[[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZQ1G2P|https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZQ1G2P]]      +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>flex fuel sensor (not needed)</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 57.03</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 57.03</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 57.03</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 57.03</font>   |[[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZQ1G2P|https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZQ1G2P]]  
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>MAC valve for boost control</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                       23.51</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                          23.51</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                           23.51</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>             23.51</font>     <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;#0563c1;;inherit>https://www.amazon.com/Valve-Control-Solenoid-Controller-35A-AAA-DDBA-1BA/dp/B07SSSBBZ2</font>     +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>MAC valve for boost control</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 23.51</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 23.51</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 23.51</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 23.51</font>   |[[https://www.amazon.com/Valve-Control-Solenoid-Controller-35A-AAA-DDBA-1BA/dp/B07SSSBBZ2</font|https://www.amazon.com/Valve-Control-Solenoid-Controller-35A-AAA-DDBA-1BA/dp/B07SSSBBZ2</font]] 
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>USB cable for Holley</font>     <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                       65.67</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                          65.67</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                           65.67</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                    -</font>     |[[https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/terminator_x/terminator_x_service_parts/parts/558-443|https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/terminator_x/terminator_x_service_parts/parts/558-443]]      +| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>USB cable for Holley</font>   |$ 65.67  | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 65.67</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 65.67</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ -</font>   |[[https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/terminator_x/terminator_x_service_parts/parts/558-443|https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/terminator_x/terminator_x_service_parts/parts/558-443]]  
-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>ls coil pack</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                     100.00</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                        100.00</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                        100.00</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>          100.00</font>     |[[https://www.ebay.com/itm/325052552558?epid=1264133034&hash=item4baea4556e:g:MtcAAOSw3xViDFNF|https://www.ebay.com/itm/325052552558?epid=1264133034&hash=item4baea4556e:g:MtcAAOSw3xViDFNF]]      |+| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>ls coil pack</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 100.00</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 100.00</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 100.00</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 100.00</font>   |[[https://www.ebay.com/itm/325052552558?epid=1264133034&hash=item4baea4556e:g:MtcAAOSw3xViDFNF|https://www.ebay.com/itm/325052552558?epid=1264133034&hash=item4baea4556e:g:MtcAAOSw3xViDFNF]]  |
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-| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>Typical Cost</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                 1,650.09</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                    2,200.09</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>                                     2,200.09</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;black;;inherit>       3,484.42</font>     | |+| <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Typical Cost</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 1,650.09</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 2,200.09</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 2,200.09</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>$ 3,484.42</font>   | |
  
 You could swap out the MAP sensor for an ACDelco 12643955 for about $30, skip the flex fuel sensor, buy some junkyard coils, and you'd probably be able to cut the price down by about $200 for a cheaper alternative. You could also skip the USB cable and just read and write tunes from the touch screen, but that will probably get a little frustrating in the long term. You could swap out the MAP sensor for an ACDelco 12643955 for about $30, skip the flex fuel sensor, buy some junkyard coils, and you'd probably be able to cut the price down by about $200 for a cheaper alternative. You could also skip the USB cable and just read and write tunes from the touch screen, but that will probably get a little frustrating in the long term.
  
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 +
  
 ===== Installing the Harness ===== ===== Installing the Harness =====
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 | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;#ffffff;;#000000>A/C pressure</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;#ffffff;;#000000>A/C pressure</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   |
 | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;#ffffff;;#000000>A/C clutch</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;#ffffff;;#000000>A/C clutch</font>     | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   | <font 11pt/Calibri,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Not used</font>   |
 +
 +==== Important Note: Vehicle Speed Sensor ====
 +
 +The Holley Terminator X and HP EFI do not have a way that I've seen of accepting a speed sensor signal. To workaround this and still send a speed signal to your speedometer without upgrading to a Terminator X Max or Dominator there are two options most people have done:\\
 +You could keep your stock ECU wired into power, ground, ignition voltage, and the speed sensor and use the stock PCM just to convert the VSS sensor signal into a signal for your speedometer. Extend those wires and hide the PCM anywhere you want to.\\
 +You could also use a [[https://sirhclabs.com/product/vr-to-hall-sensor-converter/|VR to Hall sensor converter]] box according to some posts on the internet.
 +
  
 ==== Sensors ==== ==== Sensors ====
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