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 [[https://www.3800pro.com/threads/l67-vs-l36-connecting-rod-differences.26632/|https://www.3800pro.com/threads/l67-vs-l36-connecting-rod-differences.26632/]] [[https://www.3800pro.com/threads/l67-vs-l36-connecting-rod-differences.26632/|https://www.3800pro.com/threads/l67-vs-l36-connecting-rod-differences.26632/]]
  
-L36 vs L67 vs L32 vs L26+==== Series 2 vs Series 3 ==== 
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 +Series 3 engines all utilized powdered metal connecting rods, however the series 2 rods were cast metal. There is some debate as to which material is stronger though. 
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 +The series 3 powdered metal rods dont have the weight variance that cast do, save time/material for balancing.\\ 
 +powdered metal rods are brittle so they can machine the big end bore and bolt holes then crack the cap off (no more machining 2 separate components to mate then final machine big end)\\ 
 +the fractured cap also means the cap is self aligning, this is a good thing but the material being brittle to accomplish this means the material may not be very strong and will shatter instead of bend at their limit. 
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 +Some will reference the series 3 rods as being stronger because they are "forged" rods. However the forging process that was used to create these rods is not a conventional forging process.\\ 
 +"forged" in their terminology is that the powdered metal is pressed/forged into shape then the pressing is heated to fuse the metal particles.\\ 
 +It is not a forging in the conventional sense where a hot ingot is hot forged into the shape of a rod over multiple dies thereby giving the steel a grain structure that improves the metals strength…that is a true rod forging. 
 + 
 +==== L67 vs L36 ====
  
 The L67 and L32 have stronger connecting rods than the the L36 and L26 engines. The L67 and L32 have stronger connecting rods than the the L36 and L26 engines.
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 +L36/L26 rods are longer than L67/L32 rods as well\\
 +{{:engine_details:192e053e7c254614eac39a8a53c24fbf.png}}
  
 Below is an image of the L67 and L36 connecting rods: Below is an image of the L67 and L36 connecting rods:
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 The L67 rod is on the left and the L36 rod is on the right. The L67 rod is on the left and the L36 rod is on the right.
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 +==== L36(s2 NA) vs L26(s3 NA) Connecting Rods ====
  
 Below is an image of the L36 and L26 connecting rods. Below is an image of the L36 and L26 connecting rods.
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 The L26 rod is on the right, the L36 is on the left. The L26 rod is on the right, the L36 is on the left.
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 +====   ====
  
 ===== Pistons ===== ===== Pistons =====
  
-=====\\ +L67 and L32 pistons (supercharged) are longer than L36/L26(Naturally-aspirated) pistons. 
-Journals+ 
 +The supercharged pistons have a thicker crown and a a deeper dish. The ring lands are also moved down by 0.1" compared to the naturally aspirated engines.
  
-=====   =====+Some L67 and L32 pistons received piston skirt coatings starting in 2003. This coating though seems to wear off by ~75,000 miles
  
-journal sizes\\ +===== Resources=====
-[[https://www.3800pro.com/threads/l36-and-l67-journal-size.48314/|https://www.3800pro.com/threads/l36-and-l67-journal-size.48314/]]+
  
-Stroking/Boring options+[[http://www.grandprixforums.com/3-8l-v6-supercharged-l67-l32-/83989-l67-vs-l32-l26-rods-pistons.html|http://www.grandprixforums.com/3-8l-v6-supercharged-l67-l32-/83989-l67-vs-l32-l26-rods-pistons.html]]